The Nonviolent Live Longer

 

Those who live without
pig fat shortening.
are their lives extending
not them shortening.
Those who refuse
to shorten animal lives
extend their own.
A higher percentage of
vegans fruitarians
and vegetarians
attain the three digit
status of centenarians.

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lyrycsyntyme's picture

Correlation vs Causation?

Interesting poem, well written. The actual evidence behind it, though, is conflicting to say the least. It seems that the data hasn't been properly supported to control for amount of exercise and other health habits such as (a) smoking, (b) drug use, and (c) alcohol use - which one could argue belongs with (b). One of the problems with doing this type of control is that there are few vegetarians that don't excercise more frequently than the population, and generally they participate in smoking less than the rest of the population. I believe that drinking is where the least disparity exists, but there is a gap in what we'd call 'abusive drinking', which leans heavily in favor of vegetarians and vegans.

 

Another major factor is that vegetarians and vegans are much less likely to eat processed food, which is likely, at large, to be nearly as damaging to the body as smoking or substance abuse. There are also other factors to be considered, of course. But yes, it's complex.

 

As ever, I do salute your love and concern for animals. I'm not a vegetarian, but my layer hens have been given a healthy retirement (well, semi-retirement, some of them still lay a little bit). Most of my friends and my neighbors question why I didn't slaughter them after it was no longer cost effective to have them (which isn't exactly true, because the coop sheddings turn out compost for the land and they help balance certain "pest" populations), but I see our relationship as symbionic. They've given me eggs (and smiles, as they do many entertaining, funny things), while I give them food and provide available protection from extreme weather, as well as nighttime enclosure to be safe from predators. If one gets sick, or injured in some way, I do my best to treat them (of which I've had a duck recover from an interrupted hawk attack and a hen come back from a severe fowl mite infestation while simultaneously dealing with a respitory issue, over the years). Like I said, it's complex. But so it is with life. All the best.

 

 

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  Latest data is 5% of

 

Latest data is 5% of population are vegetarian and 2% vegan.

Re drinking alcohol.. the very yang meat and the very yin alcohol

seem to crave each other.. I personally don't know any vegan or vegetarian alcoholics. It's truly beautiful that you are not killing the elders. How wonderful to save a duck after a hawk attack. God heal your respiratory

issues. Thank you very much for the informative review.



 

 

lyrycsyntyme's picture

You're welcome.

I don't believe I have come across a vegan/vegetarian alcoholic, either. I have met vegans that drink, but I'm not aware that this extended beyond tame social drinking. I'd be interested in a study being done on that. I suspect that your theory is largely correct, and that alcoholism is more likely to overlap with an ominiverous pallet.

 

Thanks, to you as well, for a gentle response. Your compassionate demeanor is always good to find on these pages.

 

 

saiom's picture

thank you

my demeanor gets meaner when i see Fauci on tv !!



 

 

lyrycsyntyme's picture

Haha, yea. I canned my t/v

Haha, yea. I canned my t/v years ago, because I got similar senses about what happens on it.

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~Inspiring Immortality~

Gurus gather to trade their grace

attained by the virtued practices of

the principles of peaceful people.


bananas are the perfect food

for prostitues

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and pomegranate tree protectors too live longer one would think